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oldlib Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:19 AM
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I can't stand Television today.
Any channel or program that I watch is only, at best, in five minute segments, interrupted by commercials. This includes even Kieth Olberman, whom I like to watch for news. I try to have a backup channel, like History, to go to during commercials but I found that I will only see another commercial. Football is no different, as they find the least break in the action, to go to a commercial. I am looking for an alternative to this madness.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:23 AM
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1. Try Netflix streaming. Thousands of commercial free movies, tv series,
and documentaries. You can check it out right away with a free trial, but unless you have a way to watch it on your tv you would have to use your computer.

Check out our DU Netflix Streaming Videos & DVDs Group: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=441
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oldlib Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:29 AM
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4. Thank you.
This is the positive response that I was looking for.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:54 AM
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9. Check out this thread about what is used to stream Netflix:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=441x7

The Roku box is one of the most commonly used to stream Netflix to your tv, but there are also Blu-ray players and other devices.

It's hard to beat the variety of things to watch simply with Netflix streaming videos or its low cost. Many of us have no need to pay $50 or more a month for cable tv since we've gotten Netflix streaming and can watch on our big screen tvs.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:28 AM
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32. +1
Watching NETFLIX on my laptop is good enough for me.

Their range of foreign films with substance and content beats the range of films (The Godfather sagas/television sitcoms ad nauseam) offered by cable TV any day. American public is being dumbed down by the cable TV form of opium.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:25 AM
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2. This is why we own a DVR. I rarely watch live TV anymore. And I agree with
the Netflix suggestion too. We have that and enjoy it as well. :)
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:26 AM
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3. Watch PBS.
No commercials. And, if you unplug the cable, and go broadcast, you'll have three PBS channels to chose from. Six if you live near your state's border. You'll get your neighboring state's PBS, as well. Or, you can pay extra for the movie channels... No commercials on HBO, either.

I hear you can screen out the commercials with Tivo.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:54 AM
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10. I totally agree with you on PBS. Not only are there no commercials,
you get a variety of programming that not only entertains, but stimulates the mind and makes you think. Not to mention that the documentaries on PBS are some of the best I've ever seen.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:29 AM
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26. Mine carries foreign news, too.
One of the subchannels carries the Deutsche Welle TV English feed during the daytime, except when the state legislature is in session. Then they are the South Carolina version of CSPAN, which is also a great thing. They also run the BBC World News several times a day. One learns MUCH more about world events than all of the US networks (broadcast and cable) combined with BBC. And, the PBS news is pretty good, too.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 05:28 PM
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45. Only problem with PBS is that the rethugs took it over when Shrub was in office
and it has way more rethuglican programming than it used to.

No more liberal news programs-they got rid of Bill Moyers and David Brancaccio. :argh:
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 07:28 PM
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48. They didn't get rid of Bill Moyers
He retired. He's pushing 77 years old.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 01:39 PM
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50. I'd bet money they pushed him out. nt
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:30 AM
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5. seems like TCM has commercial-free movies
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:10 AM
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13. I lovvvve TCM
it's years ago I stopped watching tv except a couple hours of PBS. TCM's almost the only other thing I turn on the tv for, it's great! :headbang:
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:12 AM
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14. agree - some great movies there - and I love the discussions prior
the movies - a little inside info as it were.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:18 AM
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16. oh right on, the talks!
they get serious props from me!
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:30 AM
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Get a TIVO. Never watch commercials and spend less time watching TV.
3 "30 minute" shows are less than an a hour when you strip all the commercials.

TIVO has an "undocumented" feature that lets you skip exactly 30 seconds ahead instantly.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:37 AM
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20. +1
Makes watching anything much easier.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 12:29 PM
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39. what's this?
mrs. unblock is the remote hog in the family, so she might already know this, but i thought she just pressed fast forward and then play when she saw program. it backs up just a little when you do this so we see the last 2 seconds of the last commercial in the block.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:30 AM
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6. Not just commercials.
It's amazing how much of TV is crime based. The most popular dramas, a lot of real life crime, MSNBC lockup, Snapped...on and on. Even the Lifetime Movie Network...99% of the movies are crime and violence. Just flick through the channels or check the listings...crime, crime and more crime.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:16 AM
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15. how many shows are there based on crime fighting?
no surprising seeing we have the largest prison population on the planet.
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oldlib Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:23 AM
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23. I agree.
Watching MSNBC on weekends is a waste of time. Lockup is the majority of what they show and it is crime based.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 12:03 PM
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34. Crime based, and gorging on food
How many shows are out there, of people traveling around to places where people literally pig out on huge amounts of food? It's stunning how people will shovel steaming pounds of stuff down their throats! :wow:
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:40 AM
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7. Many great suggestions on this thread...
But also, by chance this last Friday I was needing to make a quick run to the car at the top of Countdown, and noted that the first segment was over 14 minutes. Actually noted the time. For commercial TV, that is a long intro stretch indeed. Most nights we'd dvr it and ff through the ads. So usually, we see zero commercials. No reason to see them, really.
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oldlib Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:28 PM
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49. I timed Kieth tonight on Countdown
and, as you posted, the first segment of the program went for almost 15 minutes. The rest was again hopeless until his Special Comment. The Special Comment was outstanding, and although I didn't time it, it was for a considerable period of time. I should also add that on the Rachel Maddow show that followed, Rachel opened with an opening segment that exceeded 15 minutes.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:47 AM
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8. Home Theater PC..
It's like a DVR on steroids and it really doesn't take much of a PC to do it any more, three and four year old PCs are perfectly adequate to be a HTPC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_theater_PC
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:57 AM
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11. Free Speech TV is on DishNet and DirectTV and has no commercials.
Link TV is on DirectTV and has no commercials.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:59 AM
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12. It's Something I Have a Hard Time with TV Too
the amount of commercials...
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:20 AM
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17. My set is for DVDs only- I have no idea what shows are on anymore. Don't care, either. n/t
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:33 AM
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18. DVR is your answer..; record your favorites, then whiz through the ads
:)
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:36 AM
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19. The answer:
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dynasaw Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:40 AM
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21. Haven't Watched TV Since the Late 1980's
Sensed the downslide into mediocrity in the 1970's. Network TV got worse in the80's.
On the rare occasion I catch something on TV (in public waiting rooms, airports etc.) I am appalled by the inanity
of what's on.

Thank goodness there's the internet.
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elias49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:03 AM
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29. Yeah! No inanity on the intertubes!
:toast:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:01 AM
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22. We record any show we want to watch that skip through commercials
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oldlib Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:28 AM
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24. Reply to all!
The suggestions are really helpful. It will take some time for me to act on them and I believe that it will be fruitful.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:59 AM
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27. If you are willing to just watch the network channels...
Edited on Mon Jan-17-11 11:03 AM by Statistical
OTA antenna (real one) in the attic or on roof + TIVO + lifetime subscription = Flawless HD quality with no commercials or cable bill ever again.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:28 AM
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25. I never grow tired of Marquee Moon.
Oh, not THAT Television? Sorry. ;)
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:00 AM
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28. Watch soccer..
once the game starts there are no commercials...except at HT.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:05 AM
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30. I can't deal with other televised sports anymore for that exact reason. nt
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:06 AM
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31. I have a DVR. I don't even remember what a commercial looks like. nt
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 12:14 PM
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37. +1
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:56 AM
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33. There's an easy solution: turn it off. nt
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 12:03 PM
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35. Remember when TV was "free" and there were significantly fewer commercials?
Edited on Mon Jan-17-11 12:04 PM by RufusTFirefly
These days even public (sic) TV has commercials. Ah. Progress!
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 12:04 PM
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36. yeah -- and cable was hyped as the place to go for NO commercials?
Boy were we suckered on THAT too.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 12:23 PM
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38. internet!
hulu's commercials are rarer and only 30 seconds or less. netflix, no commercials. you can watch many programs in their entirety on the PBS page.

i gave up television years ago and don't miss the bills or the commercials. or the talking heads that drive me apeshit.

by the way rachel maddow and keith as well as the daily show both have full episodes on their websites. i'm hoping that msnbc will soon add lawrence o'donnell's show as well. Democracy now! you can watch episodes in full going back i don't know how long.

the internet is a wondrous place.
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WestSeattle2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 12:38 PM
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40. Sell the TV, buy a Kindle
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 12:50 PM
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41. And when you want to loan one of your new "books" to a friend...?
Edited on Mon Jan-17-11 12:55 PM by RufusTFirefly
Kindle is to books as Monsanto's Roundup Ready is to seeds.
People have been sharing books and saving seeds for centuries. Soon they'll no longer be able to do so.
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Tuvok Obama Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 04:02 PM
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42. Kindle owners can and do loan ebooks to each other
I haven't done it, because I have no friends. ;)

But it's not even limited to personal friends. Whole online communities have been set up for these types of exchanges.

The book is inaccessible on the loaner's device for the period that the borrower has it, just like a regular book is out of the physical possession of the loaner when someone is borrowing it.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 05:35 PM
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46. Two weeks. Only once. And not all books are lendable. Many aren't.
Plus, you have to do all the lending through Amazon's site.

Thanks, but I'll stick to actual books for now.
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Tuvok Obama Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 07:19 PM
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47. Something I don't get about the Kindle vs. paper books debate...
...is why it has to be either/or. I still have two large bookshelves of physical books, and a Kindle loaded with ebooks. I kept some physical books that I couldn't bear to part with, even after adding those titles to my Kindle. But many of the books on my shelf were not available as ebooks (or in many cases, the ebook samples showed way too many typos and formatting errors).

So I don't see why I seem to be in the minority in thinking that both types have their merits. So many Kindle owners seem to want to dispose of their entire collection of physical books. It seems to me that a person who likes to read can keep both types of collections, and enjoy a more enriched reading experience than those who approach the subject in terms of either/or.

(I didn't know that about the limits to ebook lending, by the way, so I appreciate that information. I just hadn't cared enough to research it.)
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WestSeattle2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 04:10 PM
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44. You can loan e-books to friends for up to two weeks.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 04:05 PM
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43. History channel is crap now
99% duff and fluff. I turn to Free Speech TV on public access.
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