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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 07:06 PM
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How would you feel if the situation was reversed right now?
Edited on Fri Nov-11-11 07:07 PM by NNN0LHI
Suppose McCain/Palin had won the last election and all we had to choose from were 8 ass clowns like the GOP has right now running for the Democratic nomination.

Hate to think about something like that. There must be a bunch of Republicans right on the verge of going completely berserk about now.

Must suck to be them.

Don
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 07:08 PM
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1. If McCain/Palin had won the last election, nukes would have already been dropped.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 07:08 PM
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2. Fine with me if it sucks to be them
Until they reclaim their party for rationality, they deserve nothing but misery.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 07:08 PM
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3. We don't have anyone waiting in the wings
So yes, we might very well be there if the tables were turned

Edwards - Political Suicide

Obama - Like Dukakis and Kerry, they would view him as "damaged goods"

Clinton - She would have stuck it out in the Senate

Gore - He has too much ethics to play that game again

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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 07:14 PM
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4. the republican party has marginalized itself out of existence. a hostile takeover
by the ideological right has made republicans unelectable at a national level because the candidates the ideological looney tunes want are not candidates that are acceptable to the majority of Americans. Their positions are just too authoritarian, too fire and brimstone stupidity, too out-of-step with reality and the changes society is experiencing at this time.

but there's always a backlash when things change for the better. there are always end-timers.

rational republicans need to move into the democratic party so that the left can create a party that is responsive to working people. we have no party that represents working people at this time. Maybe we're sort of at a point at which all three presidential candidates at the beginning of the progressive era agreed that reforms in the economic system need to be made and that's more important than making govt. a come-to-jesus organization.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 07:22 PM
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5. My ppinion?
The GOP don't want to win the presidency this time. They want four more years to obstruct and destroy our economy so that by the time 2016 comes around, the country will be so messed up and the populace so scared that their champion, Jeb, will win in a landslide.
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Rabblevox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 07:41 PM
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6. I agree completely. They don't even care about winning the white house this time. /nt
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 07:45 PM
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8. There's no way they can be serious about winning.
They've a pack of loons and losers running right now. It would be way too simple for them to have picked a nice mailable Republican and groomed them to kick all their butts. The fact that they didn't means either they're so rudderless they weren't able, or they don't want to have to deal with the next four years of clean up work. My bet is with yours on the latter and not the former.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 07:50 PM
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10. +1 -- their main goal is keeping the house and taking the senate
The primary GOP objective is gridlocking Obama. If they keep him locked down and hamstring him enough, there won't be another Democratic president for at least 12 years.

If we win back the house and keep control of the senate, Obama might actually DO things to help people, like he was sort of trying to do back in 2009. That is their worst nightmare.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 08:22 PM
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11. that tactic was just rebuked at the polls this week
that tactic was rebuked when Democrats won in 2006. Democrats didn't push for enough change - it was a terrible time of repulsive republican scare tactics, but people seem to have enough distance from the last ten years to look at who has been creating problems in passing legislation that is for the good of the majority.

if Obama wants to really rally voters, he should move to the left - he'll be accused of doing this whether he does or not. he might as well get some actual political mileage out of it and try to help at the same time.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:08 AM
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13. and it will have to be rebuked over and over again for the foreseeable future
The American electorate just doesn't have the kind of collective memory required to retain long-term lessons.

We seem to make the same mistakes over and over again, learn from them and take corrective actions every 6 years or so, and then fall back into the shadowlands where the GOP can gin up enough fear to make their positions seem supportworthy once more.

Agree with you about Obama though -- he should totally go all FDR/Truman on their butts since he'll be accused of being a socialist Muslim Kenyan regardless.

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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 09:58 PM
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12. I agree with almost everything you said
Except the "Jeb" part, they really don't want someone who will be soft on illegal immigration. My guess is that they will go ga-ga over Christie.

Besides, the Repigs don't do too badly for themselves when they hold at least one house of Congress, with Barack Obama as President. Any fool knows that the economy will be in the tank for the next few years, why not have Obama get all the shit for it?
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 07:43 PM
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7. The way I see it it's their turn for what they've done to this country
The Republicans have gone from being incredibly disciplined and united in their goals to destroying themselves in as few as three years. They did it to themselves.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 07:45 PM
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9. As dysfunctional as the Democrats are
there is more batshit crazy in the pinkie of Perry than there is in our entire party.
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