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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 01:53 AM
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Device That Generates Cheap Energy Continues to Delight, Stump Scientists
Edited on Wed Nov-16-11 02:52 AM by BigBearJohn
Italian inventor Andrea Rossi and Emeritus Professor Dr. Sergio Focardi (Physics University Bologna) have worked together for two years to bring the first iteration of a new energy source to the public. Referred to as Low Energy Nuclear Reaction, this type of operation produces sustainable energy with no nuclear radiation, dangerous chemicals or pollution.



On October 28th Rossi/Focardi demonstrated the operation of a 1 megawatt "reactor" that ran on its own power for nearly 5 hours. The prototype reactor, called the E-Cat, was then sold to an anonymous customer for an undisclosed price. Rossi claims he will begin manufacturing reactors immediately and has apparently sold two or more.

A cheap source of heat could replace millions of wood and coal burning fires, and desalinate billions of tons of seawater for Africa. It could replace our hot water heaters and provide near-free electricity to homes. In short, this form of energy could change our world for the better.

Rossi has been issued a patent by the Italian Patent Office which is enforceable throughout the world via UN Signatory Charter and international patent law. It is reluctance on the part of the US Patent Office to grant a patent that has likely caused Mr. Rossi to be particularly protective of his intellectual property.

NOTE: Although the MSNBC article below calls the process "cold fusion", physicists have not confirmed this effect to be an accepted fusion process, so the headline has also been corrected.

SOURCE: http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/most-popular/italian-cold-fusion-machine-sells.html


READ THE ORIGINAL MSNBC ARTICLE HERE
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 01:57 AM
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1. Very interesting. nt
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 02:12 AM
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2. That stuff about patents is unadulterated bullshit

This part is nonsense:

"Rossi has been issued a patent by the Italian Patent Office which is enforceable throughout the world via UN Signatory Charter and international patent law."

And this part is misleading:

"It is reluctance on the part of the US Patent Office to grant a patent that has likely caused Mr. Rossi to be particularly protective of his intellectual property."

Free energy machines have a long history at the USPTO. However, the worst that can happen is that the USPTO may require independent testing. Free energy inventors avoid that like kryptonite, and this guy is consistent with the pattern.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 02:17 AM
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3. Too good to be true, I guess.
Why,oh why must you rain on my parade, pop my balloon and quell my joy?


:cry:
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 02:23 AM
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4. I do not know

Whether his machine works, I have no information on which to form an opinion.

The stuff about patents makes no sense. Where that information originated is unclear.

His behavior is consistent with other things that have proved to be hoaxes or even self-delusions. But in the absence of actual data and independent confirmation, one cannot simply accept his claims.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:03 AM
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6. Becuase there's nothing the world likes more
Then the taste of really sweet dreams.

http://www.despair.com/bitterness.html
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 05:46 AM
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13. Indeed. Mass quellage in progress.
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 02:41 AM
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5. If by "bringing a new energy source to the public," you mean....
... "selling to an anonymous customer for an undisclosed price," then yes, he is sharing his discovery with the world.

Hm.

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:06 AM
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7. Hmmm....Sounds like the uses for/ description of solar power.
Edited on Wed Nov-16-11 03:07 AM by cliffordu
Nice photo, by the way.

If it was orange and/or red, it would look just like one of the most popular pictures of the sun ever taken....

Just sayin'......
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:16 AM
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8. The jury seems to be out...
Wikipedia is certainly not an authoritative source, but opinions of some physicists who should know better are that it might work after all, so it's probably a scam, but they won't let us see how it works-- so we can maybe assume it's a scam, but we have little evidence one way or the other.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer

Oh, and this Rossi guy has been this route before.

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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 05:26 AM
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11. Actually "we" don't have to provide evidence against his machine...
... the burden of proof lies entirely with him.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 05:13 AM
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9. This is the one who refuses to let anyone actually check his work, right?
Fraud fraud fraud.
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 05:21 AM
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10. I tend to agree about the fraud
OTOH, he may be afraid someone will steal some or part of his invention if he shows it before he can make $$$ off it. I hope it's the latter rather than the former.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 04:58 PM
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14. It's much more likely that he's a lying liar who lies. (nt)
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 05:35 AM
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12. Not this one again.
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