Tea Party Edges Out Occupy Wall Street for Public Favor

[apples and oranges]

Tea Party Edges Out Occupy Wall Street for Public Favor

The Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street -- fairly or unfairly pegged as the yin and yang of American political discourse -- have flip-flopped in the polls. A month ago, polls were showing twice as much support for the anti-inequality protesters in Zuccotti Park, but a poll out Wednesday from Public Policy Polling finds that the Tea Party now edges out the Occupiers in public affection.

sked whether they have a higher opinion of the Tea Party or Occupy Wall Street movement the Tea Party wins out 43-37, representing a flip from last month when Occupy Wall Street won out 40-37 on that question. Again the movement with independents is notable- from preferring Occupy Wall Street 43-34, to siding with the Tea Party 44-40.

http://news.yahoo.com/tea-party-edges-occupy-wall-street-public-favor-183504470.html

:wow: :banghead:

[brooklynite]

1. Repeal Obamacare!; Cut Taxes!

As fringe as the Tea Party may be, everyone understands what there core policy demands are.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. Restore Glass Steagal

Pardon Student Debt

Medicare for all...

Just don't expect the propaganda outlets to tell you this.

[golddigger]

2. Bullshit.

[Nye Bevan]

3. Excellent rebuttal. Thanks. (nt)

[peace frog]

18. +1111

Stinks like BS to me, too.

[Ship of Fools]

4. May the protests get BIGGER, then! OWS doesn't need to be liked --

they need to be HEARD -- LOUDLY...

Go occupiers, everywhere!!!

:party::party::party::party::party::party:

[Donnachaidh]

5. this particular *poll* seems to be quite the wondrous object today

meme of the week to marginalize OWS, and possible objections to the DOJ/DHS orders put out to squelch the movement?

[Avalux]

9. That's my thought. Too many random coincidences. n/t

[Hell Hath No Fury]

12. You noticed that too...

:)

[FirstLight]

28. ding!

weren;t we just reading an OP about Conintelpro? ya... sounds like it to me too

[CJCRANE]

6. I sense some perception management

by the Teabaggerati.

[warrior1]

7. bullshit

[autorank]

8. Public Policy Polling did some good work in the past but this is moronic

Oh, right, The Tea Party is identified with the Republicans in Congress and Congress has a 10% approval/83% disapproval.

The poll is full o shit period.

"This poll was not paid for or authorized by any campaign or
political organization. PPP surveys are conducted through automated telephone
interviews. PPP is a Democratic polling company, but polling expert Nate Silver of the
New York Times found that its surveys in 2010 actually exhibited a slight bias toward
Republican candidates."

Public Policy Polling
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_US_11161023.pdf

Just asked this question on the Public Policy Polling blog:



There are no definitions of either the Tea Party or OWS, hence you have people who know nothing or little about the
movements asked about them. It would be more interesting to know how people reacted to the goals of each group.

Waste o time poll and one can now wonder WTF this group is up to.

[Donnachaidh]

24. there seems to be some exuberant pushers of this poll here on DU, too.

It's very telling as you watch this suddenly pop up all over the place.

[autorank]

25. I left another reply

My first asked who paid for the poll. They said nobody other than them, PPP, from their profits. Of course, their profit are predominantly
from Democratic candidates.

Here's the second comment that i made. They didn't respond.

The current PPP poll offers no real reason to think that support for the Occupy Wall Street movement is fading. In fact, it looks like an outlier.

OWS

The PPP poll looks like an outlier. Here's why.

PPP: Do you support or oppose the goals of the Occupy Wall Street movement? Support 33%, Oppose 45%. Not sure 22%

The "support" figure was lower than a late October CBS poll, 1,650 respondents, two weeks before the 800 respondent PPP poll.

The Oct 25 CBS poll the question posed was "Agree with Occupy Wall Street Movement?" Yes 43%, No 27%, Don't Know 30%

TEA PARTY

PPP's Tea party rating is through the roof. On Aug 11, Gallup found: Support 26%, Oppose 29%, No opinion 46%

PPP showed 42% Approve,, 45% Oppose, 13% Not sure

So, in the course of just 15 days or so, approval gathered 62% over Gallup, disapprove was up 55%, and don't know/not sure dropped by a factor of three.

This about sums it up for the Tea party. The New York Times, Aug 17, reported on an extensive analysis of polling data that found that: "the tea party is "less popular than much maligned groups like 'atheists' and 'Muslims.'" I seriously doubt that 'atheists' have a greater than 43% approval rating.

This poll is difficult to accept as being even close to actual public sentiment.

Posted by: Michael Collins | November 17, 2011 at 03:37 AM

With wacked out numbers like this, they're definitely shilling for the man.

[Zorra]

30. PPP is owned by a wealthy 1% businessman CEO named Dean Debnam. nt

[autorank]

32. THANK YOU!!!

[elleng]

10. fwiw

What accounted for the shift? PPP's Tom Jensen says it doesn't reflect Americans not being concerned about income inequality (just look at how much more the U.S. is interested in the issue recently). So, it's anyone's guess. But the sustained confrontations in Oakland (which some compared more to a riot than a protest), and the New York Post-spurred daily reports of Zuccotti Park mischief, couldn't have helped. However, since the PPP survey showing "fading" favor toward OWS was conducted on November 10-13th, before the NYPD served an eviction notice on Zuccotti Park.

[Dawson Leery]

11. The vast majority of polls place the Tea Party's favorability in the 20's.

[tblue]

13. You never hear anything about the TP lately.

People have forgotten them. They have short memories. It's okay. We carry on.

[HappyMe]

22. No they haven't forgotten them.

Just because you don't hear about them, or see them everywhere, does not mean they no longer exist. Most of the repub candidates for president are tp.

[Saving Hawaii]

29. And they've got about the same chance of becoming the next President as I do.

Or the King of England for that matter.

Edit: Probably better odds on becoming the King of England.

[backscatter712]

14. Push-poll.

The corporate media isn't measuring, but trying to influence public opinion here.

[Citizen Worker]

15. Horse puckey!!!

[shraby]

16. I call bullsh*t on that poll also. The tparty doesn't get

2-3 thousand in a group at a time.

[FrenchieCat]

17. Wow! Unbelievable....

literally!

Too bad I don't trust the Corporate media, isn't it?
Too bad for them!

Also too sad that enough out there who might believe this....
which is all the corporate media needs 1/2 of the time;
enough folks who will believe their bullshit and be swayed by it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. I see the media drumbeat... err propaganda

is working... it is what it is

[Azathoth]

21. All the public sees is OWS squatting in local parks and fighting with cops

This is what happens when your entire plan of action is to camp out in a public place and play bongo drums. People may initially agree with the anger and grievances you express, but that solidarity disappears when they realize that you don't have specific demands or unified leadership or a strategy for participating meaningfully in the political process. Once people conclude that your protests aren't going to evolve into a disciplined political movement that will actually change the way things work, they start to get bored with you, and eventually they get tired of the clashes with cops and the constant allegations of criminality and the disruption to their neighborhoods and they just want the whole thing to go away.

[HappyMe]

23. Yeah, there's that. nt

[EFerrari]

26. There were 32K people on the street in New York today

and you're complaining?

That's hilarious and so is any poll that says the tea klan has more support than Occupy Wall Street.

[NYC Liberal]

27. That's because the teabaggers were funded and supported by

the establishment politicians and corporations. And they had the full support of the media too. The TP was no "disciplined political movement"...they simply didn't want to change anything. It's pretty easy to get that done!

OWS gets nothing but negative coverage from the media because OWS is protesting all their corporate owners and big corporate sponsors.

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. Here from local indie

http://www.eastcountymagazine.org/node/7905

By the way I did out scoop the MSM on a few things.

And what is my lovely local media doing INSTEAD of showing this?

In fact, to my shock FOX six, local network, is actually more balanced.

But serious, you are seeing counter insurgency in action