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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:02 PM
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Norquist: Democrats are lying



(CNN) - Notorious anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist said Democrats who've blamed him for the super committee's bipartisan budget gridlock are simply lying.

The president of Americans for Tax Reform encouraged Republican members of the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction to sign a pledge that binds them

to resist raising taxes as they work to find $1.2 trillion dollars in deficit-cutting measures by Wednesday, but on CNN's "American Morning," he said the pledge was

between the country and its congressmen, and not with him.



Democratic Sen. Patty Murray called Norquist out Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union" saying his name came up too often during super committee negotiations.

"As long as we have some Republican lawmakers who feel more enthralled with a pledge they took to a Republican lobbyist than they do to a pledge to the country

to solve the problems, this is going to be hard to do," she said.


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/21/norquist-democrats-are-lying/
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:06 PM
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1. Fuck Grover
He's a fucking MONSTER!

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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:08 PM
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2. More republican projection....
It is beyond me why this filthy turd so much control over the politicians in his party.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:09 PM
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3. it makes you wonder.....
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:45 PM
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19. There Is Strength In Numbers And If Those Politicians That He Has So Much Control Over.....
as a group said that they no longer will be bound by his oath - he would lose his power over them immediately. The question is - do they have the guts to stand up to him?
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ErikJ Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:14 PM
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4. Financial Terrorist
His wife is Muslim, maybe she has Al Quiada connections?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:19 PM
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6. I didn't know that about his wife, but since all Muslims are
terrorists, it only makes sense she's a deep cover operative.
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ErikJ Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:37 PM
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15. exactly.
The GOP minions would be very interested in that bit of info. hint hint
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:42 PM
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18. If he is sleeping with a Muslim he must be a terrorist too
I wonder if they know this in freeperville??
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 01:43 AM
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22. No doubt in my mind. nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:18 PM
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5. Look at those dead eyes. nt
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:19 PM
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7. doesn't look like he'd be fun to hang with, does he?
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:20 PM
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8. Bull...he does not speak for me. I have nothing to do with that pledge.
Who the hell does he think he is? I did not approve that pledge.

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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:21 PM
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9. Take it from someone who's done a shitload of lying in his lifetime. n/t
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:22 PM
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10. That's rich
OK, Grover isn't really a liar. He's just a half-cocked moron.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:27 PM
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11. Okay, sounds like he just gave the Republicans license to break their pledge. n/t
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:32 PM
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12. Now there is somebody that needs to take a bath and get a job. nt
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ErikJ Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:35 PM
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14. Ha! think again dude
He just supplies the $millions to "educate" the voters about who broke the pledge.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:38 PM
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16. here he is celebrating his win


Grover Norquist hails victory after supercommittee deal fails

One of the most powerful figures in Washington, Republican lobbyist Grover Norquist, headed off on holiday on Tuesday, leaving behind a trail of economic and political chaos while happily looking ahead to the next, even bigger battle: the 2012 elections.

Norquist, who has over the last two decades helped turn the Republicans into the party of no taxation, is blamed by the Democrats for single-handedly scuppering the Congressional supercommittee on the national deficit on Monday. Its collapse threw markets in the US and Europe into fresh turmoil, and reduced even further the standing of Congress among voters.

But Norquist was unconcerned. He was in a celebratory mood as, luggage and family packed into the car, he set off from Washington to Florida for the Thanksgiving break. With one victory behind him, he is already thinking about the 2012 White House and Congressional elections.

He expects the Republicans to take the White House but if they do not, there is a Plan B. He is confident they will take control of the Senate and, with both the House and Senate in Republican hands, he predicted Obama's second term would be a dead duck.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/22/grover-norquist-congress-supercomittee-deficit?newsfeed=true
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:33 PM
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13. Norquist, Sir, Lies About His Conspiring With Islamic Terrorists
From the Congressional Record....

http://wolf.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=34&parentid=6iontree=6,34&itemid=1805

Not only was Mr. Norquist entangled with the criminal dealings of Jack Abramoff, but documentation shows that he has deep ties to supporters of Hamas and other terrorist organizations that are sworn enemies of the United States and our ally Israel.

According to Senate lobbying disclosure records of his now defunct lobbying firm, Janus-Merritt Strategies, around the years 2000 and 2001 Mr. Norquists firm represented Abdurahman Alamoudi, who was convicted two years later for his role in a terrorist plot and who is presently serving a 23-year sentence in federal prison.

Court documents and a October 15, 2004, Department of Justice press release reveal that Alamoudi, the president of the American Muslim Council, was arrested at Dulles Airport in September 2003 upon returning to the U.S after participating in a Libyan plot to assassinate the Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah. Alamoudi participated in recruiting participants for this plot by introducing the Libyans to two Saudi dissidents in London and facilitating the transfer of hundreds of thousands of dollars of cash from the Libyans to those dissidents to finance the plot, the release said.

According to the DOJ press release, Alamoudi, a naturalized citizen, pled guilty to three federal offenses:

One count of violating the International Emergency Powers Act;

One count of false statements made in his application for naturalization;

A tax offense involving a long-term scheme to conceal from the IRS his financial transactions with Libya and his foreign bank accounts and to omit material information from the tax returns filed by his charities.

It is important to point out that Alamoudis ties to terrorist groups were no secret prior to his arrest.

Alamoudi spoke at an October 2000 rally in front of the White House in support of Hamas and Hezbollah during the period he was represented by Norquists firm, according to Senate lobbying disclosure records.. The Rally Against Israeli Aggression was sponsored by Norquists Islamic Free Market Institute, according to a September 2000 Islamic Institute Friday Brief. The Islamic Free Market Institute was created by Grover Norquist and operated out of his Americans for Tax Reform office in Washington, thanks to sizable start-up contributions from Alamoudi, according to a March 11, 2003, article in the St. Petersburg Times by Mary Jacoby.

I have seen video from the rally, where Alamoudi roared from the stage:

I have been labeled by the media in New York to be a supporter of Hamas, anybody supports Hamas here?



Hear that, Bill Clinton, we are all supporters of Hamas, Allahu Akbar.

I wish they added that I am also a supporter of Hezbollah. Anybody supports Hezbollah here?



A few months after the Lafayette Park rally, Alamoudi was photographed in Beirut at a conference attended by representatives of the terror groups Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah and al-Qaida, also according to the March 2003 St. Petersburg Times article.

In addition to Alamoudis outspoken support for Hamas and Hezbollah, he expressed private support for the 1994 terrorist attack against a synagogue in Buenos Aires, Argentina, which killed 85 people and injured hundreds, according to a December 17, 2003, article in The American Spectator by Shawn Macomber, who reported: In a wiretapped conversation made public in the recent criminal complaint, he (Alamoudi) praises a 1994 bombing in Buenos Aires. The Jewish Community Center. It is a worthy operation, Alamoudi tells an unidentified man, in Arabic. I think that the attacks that are being executed by bin Laden and other Islamic groups are wrong, especially hitting the civilian targets. Many African Muslims have died and not a single American has died. I prefer to hit a Zionist target in America or EuropeI prefer honestly like what happened in Argentina.

According to a June 11, 2003, Wall Street Journal article by reporters Tom Hamburger and Glenn Simpson, around 1999 Alamoudi sent his deputy at the American Muslim Council, Khaled Saffuri, to work directly for Mr. Norquist to establish the Islamic Free Market Institute one of the groups that sponsored the October 2000 rally in Lafayette Park. The institute, chaired by Norquist and led by Saffuri, operated out of the Americans for Tax Reform offices here in Washington, according to the March 2003 article in the St. Petersburg Times.

The Senate Indian Affairs Committee report revealed that Saffuri was closely tied to Mr. Norquist and the Abramoff scandal and received money from Abramoff and a front group, the American International Center (AIC), to partner with Abramoffs firm Greenberg Traurig on his Malaysian-related interests and issues.

Mr. Norquist also associated with terror financier Sami Al-Arian, according to Mary Jacobys reporting in March 2003, in the St. Petersburg Times. Al-Arian pled guilty in 2006 to a charge of conspiring to provide services to the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), a specially designated terrorist organization, in violation of U.S. law, and is under house arrests, according to a Department of Justice press release. The Palestinian Islamic Jihads paramilitary wing the al-Quds Brigades has conducted numerous attacks, including large-scale suicide bombings, according to the National Counterterrorism Center,

Who is Sami al-Arian? An October 2003 federal affidavit noted that Al-Arian had longstanding connections to associates of al Qaeda. According to the affidavit, Sheik Rahman (the Blind Sheik) visited Al-Arian at his residence in Tampa and spoke at his mosque. Rahman is currently serving a life sentence in U.S. prison for his role in the 1993 World Trade Center attack and additional terror plots. The federal affidavit also disclosed Al-Arians ties with Alamoudi.

Al-Arians relationship with Mr. Norquist appears to have spanned several years. Prior to his arrest in February 2003, Sami Al-Arian visited Norquists office in Washington for a meeting, also reported in the June 11, 2003, article in the Wall Street Journal. According to Continetti, Mr. Al-Arian also ccd Norquist on an e-mail he sent to the Wall Street Journal protesting an editorial that had pointed out his terrorist connections.

Mr. Norquist himself served as a key facilitator between Al-Arian, Alamoudi and the White House, according to Mary Jacobys reporting in March 2003 in The St. Petersburg Times. She reported that In June 2001, Al-Arian was among the members of the American Muslim Council invited to the White House complex . . . The next month, the National Coalition to Protect Political Freedom a civil liberties group headed by Al-Arian gave Norquist an award for his work to abolish the use of secret intelligence evidence in terrorism cases.
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DoBotherMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:50 PM
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20. It' obvious he's doing a set up
But for what? Is he a Megalomaniac? Dana ; )
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:40 PM
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17. Oh, brother!
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 12:23 AM
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21. get a shave and a real job, you fucker.
jeez, what a self-deluding slob.
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liberal_mama Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 03:08 AM
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23. Grover, Run For Office or Get the Fuck Out of Washington!
I'm so sick of hearing about his treasonous pledge.
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