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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:10 AM
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OBAMA GETS A NOTE FROM THE 99 PERCENT MOVEMENT: ‘WE GOT SOLD OUT’
| President Obama received a note from a protester after his jobs speech in Manchester, New Hampshire this afternoon. The note tells the president to “stop the assault on our 1st amendment rights,” and “Banks got bailed out. We got sold out.” Obama addressed the movement directly after he was mic checked during his speech, saying, “You’re the reason that I ran for office in the first place.” See the note handed to Obama:

http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/11/22/374904/obama-gets-a-note-from-the-99-percent-movement-we-got-sold-out/
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:15 AM
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1. I love it but I expect nothing. And hopefully, no offer of half-measures.
Edited on Wed Nov-23-11 04:16 AM by Fire Walk With Me
Net recommendation: 0 votes (Your vote: +1)
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UnrepentantLiberal Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:19 AM
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2. Mic checked by high school students. Ouch.
I got you up to +2 :-0
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:25 AM
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3. K&R
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:31 AM
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4. If he says "People are frustrated" one more time,
I will scream. A bad hair day is frustration. No job, no pension, no future is an outrage!!!
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:10 PM
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31. +10000000 Thank you. nt
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:26 PM
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35. Insulated by his staff of Wall Streeters..
this was probably the first time Obama's heard the phrase, "We got sold out!" He sure to hell hasn't heard any of our other pleas since he took office!
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Beavker Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:56 PM
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39. +1
Agreed.

When I speak to someone regarding the war in Afghanistan, et al...sometimes I think, "should I reserve my judgment? Am I just preaching my own opinion?" But then I think, you know, I can withhold my opinion if it's what car is the coolest to buy, or which team I think should be in the BCS, or what movie sucks or doesn't suck. But these wars create DEATHS. So, I can say what I GD want to say when people are dying, whether you think it's a good reason or not!

My point I suppose is the situation should be put into perspective, and only someone that is NOT jobless would say that something like starving, losing their home, or dying from a treatable condition is 'frustrating'.

Good call.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 08:35 PM
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54. how about Clinton and his "I feel your pain" crap?
Politicians have been doing this fake empathy for centuries.
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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 04:30 AM
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95. And? How about it??
Edited on Thu Nov-24-11 05:02 AM by Cherchez la Femme
First, the subject is Obama, not ancient history; nor comparing the two as exactly equal or in equitable circumstances.
Although I'd be hard-pressed to find a NAFTA-type or Trade Agreement they mutually didn't like!


Secondly, Clinton's phraseology, as fake-sounding as it was, in itself no way ameliorates or excuses Obama completely dropping the ball on his statements towards the 99% of U.S. citizens who are hurting or suffering-- hungry, freezing, living in poverty, evicted and/or otherwise homeless-- to the ever increasing and tightening of our societal downward spiral

That's comparing apples and oranges,

or should I say comparing one to a mild cold/or similar flu and the other with with rattling bronchial pneumonia and no Health Insurance
...Oops I should have meant ROMNEY\OBAMACare---where the healthiest by far are the Insurance Profiteers, Investors and of course Profits Earnings and Dividends?


Thirdly, just because "Politicians have been doing this fake empathy for centuries."

Does this still mean, in this long-past post-age of enlightenment,

we should still be tolerating such outright Lies and Greed which contribute directly to the plebes quality of care, best possible health, nutrition, comfort, welfare, who gets the choice extraneous body-parts, and therefore who lives or dies as least upon the fullness of their wallet?


And STILL be tolerating professional,mostly if not all wealthy, politicians LIES??!


Educate me as to what a equally-based, classless society we are!



Please, ENLIGHTEN me!





Oh, and Major HOGwash --a very fitting name in more ways than one-- since you took the time to tell me in no uncertain terms I am banned from the sight of your sore eyes, not even to a Private Message
(as if I would!)
do not worry -- my words here will not sully your Hagiographic world-view!

Praise!

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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:42 AM
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5. 84% of liberal Democrats disagree - that's how many support Obama
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 05:00 AM
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6. So Obama should just ignore this? Really? We should mean nothing to him cause he is polling well?
if that's the attitudes of Democrats like you - I don't think I am one!
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 05:10 AM
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8. Yeah polls are all that matter, who cares about
people being screwed over as long poll numbers are high. :sarcasm: x(
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ladyVet Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 07:46 AM
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12. See, I don't get this.
These polling numbers are brought up every time somebody points out the president's less than liberal leanings, yet we are also told that liberals are only a fraction of the Dem party. So, 85% of 25% = ?
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MelungeonWoman Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 07:52 AM
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14. Could be sarcasm...
could be a troll. I can't tell.
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HillWilliam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 06:11 PM
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44. Love your handle
Hey "cuz" and welcome to DU.
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Huey P. Long Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 08:32 AM
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16. Good point. -eom
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 01:33 PM
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21. None of the liberal Dems I know are happy with Obama
and about half won't vote for him again.
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 06:32 PM
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46. Only one of the Dems I know is happy with Obama and that Dem is part of the 1%!!
I know a wide variety of Dems. Most are as liberal as I am, but there are few more conservative ones thrown in there. Not one is happy with Obama. Except, as mentioned, the one Dem I know who's firmly planted in 1% territory. The truly liberal Dems I know are as disgusted as I am.





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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 10:37 PM
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64. Liberal Democrats will stay home on election day..
(Remember they don't care about the progressives)
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 02:20 AM
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89. Dream on Chomsky
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 05:16 PM
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122. I am not dreaming...I will hold my nose and vote for Obama
but I will be voting for a Republican with D label..Some liberals wont be so kind and they see no difference between someone that fed them a line of BS and any other Republican...
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 02:40 PM
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115. This is how we got RayGun, they liberals you know could care less though
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:53 PM
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38. I think those are mostly pragmatists.
Lesser of two evils.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 06:35 PM
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47. Yep, I've noticed that too
And I don't care what "poll" they trot out, I don't believe for a second that liberals support this president, let alone 85%.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 02:03 AM
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84. Yep
Fuck reality
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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 01:16 PM
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20. Well, then who cares about OWS? The polls have spoken
Tim Geithner approves this message.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 02:53 PM
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24. Those numbers, oddly, have not changed in two years.
They represent a tiny fraction of the population. People on a list of Democrats who are loyal, Democratic Party Voters.

If I am called, I would respond the same way. Which means absolutely nothing in terms of how I feel about the current horrendous situation, the cabinet members he is surrounded by eg, among a myriad of other things.


The reason I would say 'yes' to such a poll, is because I have moved beyond believing that the president has much power anyhow. I do not know what he might have done if we had system that was not taken over by Wall Street so I give him the benefit of the doubt and the other side is too scary to even contemplate.

The system is the problem that needs to be addressed. When people say 'President Obama is irrelevant', it is not meant personally to him, it means we have finally realized that no matter who makes it to the WH, even someone with the best intentions, it will not matter.

So, while we work on fixing this major problem, with the choices we now have, it's better to not endorse the other truly evil side by answering a poll on Democrats negatively.

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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 08:59 PM
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56. My sediments exactly
I will never diss a Democrat to a pollster, even the ones I would rather see in hell than back in office.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 02:26 PM
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114. Another vote for that one
No matter how pissed I am at the betrayals of the current crop of democratic politician sell outs, I am not about to give the mainstream media and their paid pollster buddies one more talking point to try to shove our democratic politicians even more to the right.
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crunch60 Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 04:06 AM
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92. Until we stop the
gravy train between Wall Street and the White House, nothing will change. With the exception of a few, everyone, every office is bought and sold, like the present Supreme Court of (un)Justice, at least five of them anyway.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 03:50 PM
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25. That doesn't mean they disagree.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 03:53 PM
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26. They support Obama compared to Romney, Perry or Cain.
If there were a candidate with a record of standing up to Wall Street -- like Eliot Spitzer (see Client 9 if you want to know what happened with his call-girl scandal) or Bernie Sanders (who cannot be reproached either personally or politically) or Marcy Kaptur, or Dennis Kucinich, then we would know how much support Obama really has or does not have.

Obama is the better of a bunch of bad choices. That's why he has the support of liberals.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:06 PM
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30. That and we do not want to hear Fox News gloat when
Obama's numbers are in the shitter.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 05:24 PM
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43. I support Obama while being disappointed in many of his decisions
And actions. So the two positions may not be separate groups.
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Dutchmaster Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 06:40 PM
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49. How ambivalent of you.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 09:49 PM
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62. We're at the same point we always are - picking the best of the worst
I long ago realized that by the time any politician made it to a high level, they had sold out and would not really represent the average person. We just have to pick the best of what is there and hope that they will not do further damage to the country.

But I am afraid we've lost completely, so I'm rooting for the occupiers to make a difference.
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 07:11 PM
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50. Obama is only doing what his BOSSES tell him to do... nothing more, nothing less
But I'm in your shoes as well...
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 06:24 PM
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45. if Obama and his folks REALLLY want to win the Next Election
Edited on Wed Nov-23-11 06:41 PM by fascisthunter
... they better act like it, because this, gives Obama the false impression that liberals are satisfied. Is that what you want... it would be advantageous to him to listen to the majority of liberals on DU instead of this poll. Liberals around me are not voting for him, and that is a large number of folks which are here and offline.
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crunch60 Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 04:15 AM
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93. and that is just what the Republicans want,. Everybody
hate Obama, don't vote for him, don't vote for the Democrats. If the right wing Republicans get in, we are doomed.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 10:18 PM
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63. More accurately, 84% of the people who self identify as "liberal Democrats"
support Obama.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 05:02 AM
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7. Net recommendation: +14 votes (Your vote: +1)
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Philosopher King Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 05:29 AM
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9. I firmly believe we blundered by not forcing the banks to deal with their bad assets.
As for the notion of "too big to fail," I ask why? Because Bernanke and Geithner told us so? Nonsense--they gambled and lost; and they should have suffered the consequences of their actions. The base of the economic pyramid is the foundation. Allowing a few fat cats to tumble from their perches would have hurt--but it would have them more than the rest of us.

If these banks were indeed to big to fail, why hasn't our Congress eliminated this "danger" by decentralizing the U.S. banking system? And why are they allowing the "too big to fail" to just keep getting larger and larger and larger?

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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:12 PM
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33. Hey! Let's not leave Hank Paulson off the list.
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 07:14 PM
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51. North Dakota has a State-Owned Bank... and their economy is doing JUST FINE
Hint, hint. We screwed up by not nationalizing the banks... ALL OF THEM.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 09:02 PM
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58. Yea, but remember to use the right comparisons
--namely to other cold, thinly populated resource rich states like Montana and Alaska. ND is doing much better than either, despite far less oil and gass production per capita.
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RickFromMN Donating Member (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 03:25 AM
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91. I think North Dakota's oil, has something to do with their economic condition.
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 04:44 PM
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120. It's time to NATIONALIZE THE BANKS... get it?
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 07:42 PM
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52. Hank Paulson AND Co-Conspirators
Paulson with Co-Conspirators

Now THIS is Bi-Partisanship.
Better get used to it, SUCKERS!!
Hahahahahahaha



"Thank GAWD it Passed!!!!"

They congratulated themselves for "Saving the Economy",
but that is not true.

They "saved" the jobs and bonuses of a few VERY RICH, Wall Street CEOs & Insiders,
and they prevented the portfolios of the Ownership Class from taking a loss,
but the didn't "Save the Economy."
The "Economy" is MUCH MORE than Wall Street.

It took our Congress less than a week to hand over a TRILLION DOLLARS
to some of the richest fucks in America based on nothing more than a short, vague Extortion Note.
This robbery was cleverly timed to Go Off during the change over of administrations,
lending Plausible Deniability to BOTH parties.
....but THATS just another coincidence, isn't it?



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
Solidarity99!
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 12:16 AM
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71. Because republicons filibuster everything. nm
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 01:01 AM
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79. Correction: Because they THREATEN to filibuster everything.
Thanks to Reid they never actually have to do it. I think things would be different now if they had to actually do it. I'm sure it's not only Reid making the decision to back down each time.

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 10:03 AM
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103. Yes I agree. nm
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 10:07 AM
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104. Super-majorities my asp. Nothing got passed in the Senate.
Maybe you forgot that the Senate ignored hundreds of bills passed by the Democrats in the HOR and they filibustered the rest.

And dont you mean from 2008 thru 2009?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 11:30 AM
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108. And I remember this
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 02:02 PM
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113. Your insinuation of the great advantage of the Democrats overlooks
the fact that the Senate has enough Conserva-Dems or Blue-Damn-Dogs to stymie most Democratic issues.

Have a great Thanksgiving
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 10:08 AM
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105. And your condescension is childish. nm
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 05:31 AM
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10. k&r (+18)
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 07:02 AM
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11. k & r thanks for posting...nt
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 07:48 AM
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13. recommend
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 08:39 AM
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17. Obama may have trouble making any public speeches now
I have a feeling this isn't the last time he will be Mic Checked.

Way to go 99%ers! Keep up the pressure!
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 10:47 AM
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19. +1
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 03:55 PM
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27. Same for Rove, et al. They will all be mic checked.
And they all deserve it. They talk too much and never listen to anyone who disagrees with them.

Can't wait until Boehner and McConnell get mic checked as they campaign in 2012. I don't live in there districts, but it is bound to happen.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 02:11 AM
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85. Did you see the video?
I thought Obama handled it pretty well.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 04:27 AM
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94. we do not live in a democracy, unfortunately, despite the common mythology
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 08:47 AM
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18. What a nice empty sound bite.
It address what exactly? The lack of jobs for the young people, their crippling student debt? Hollow empty rhetoric, as usual.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 02:44 PM
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22. Kick
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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 02:48 PM
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23. Obama knows what's going on. And the SILENCE is deafening.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 03:59 PM
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28. Expect nothing.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 08:51 PM
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55. Then, either way, you won't be disappointed will you.
:P
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:02 PM
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29. Kicked and fucking recommended!
The only problem with the note? Obama already knows this and he is not allowed to voice support for OWS or investigate Wall Street and hold them accountable. Just as he has not investigated the Bush Administration and held them accountable. Now, if you do not agree with that, the alternative is worse. What's it going to be?
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 05:06 PM
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41. +1 n/t
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 01:03 AM
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80. He *chooses* not to, for whatever reason. n/t
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:10 PM
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32. K&R
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:23 PM
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34. k&r
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:37 PM
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36. Damn! I wish it had been me who gave him that note. REC. nt
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joshguitar Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:42 PM
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37. Yes
And he did nothing....


sad
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TriMera Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 05:04 PM
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40. K&R. n/t
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 05:19 PM
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42. K&R. nt
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 06:39 PM
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48. K&R n/t
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 08:06 PM
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53. K & R !!!
:kick:
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 09:01 PM
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57. It was disrespectful of the President of the United States.
Edited on Wed Nov-23-11 09:03 PM by Major Hogwash
And it demonstrated just how immature some of those kids are!!!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 09:13 PM
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60. I can't agree, Major Hogwash (not that you probably care),
but I think it's a clear and concise statement of how many are feeling and the President should be made aware.

I wouldn't have thought it was disrespectful if given to Bush - quite the contrary.

I often wonder how much gets through to those in such an insulated position. They have to rely so heavily on others to find what's happening, and getting information that way is always subject to interpretation. Like all Fox news watchers believe one set of truths because that's all the input they get. Don't know how much time a sitting President actually has to take the pulse of the people, and I think this note did a good job of reminding him what spawned OWS.

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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 12:33 AM
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72. I can assure you --- and everyone else -- that President Obama knows what is going on.
Edited on Thu Nov-24-11 12:35 AM by Major Hogwash
He uses a Blackberry, for Christ's sake!
He doesn't live in a cave!

:)
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 10:00 AM
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102. And yet he ignores massive police brutality in his country while chastising other countries
for the same thing. I agree he knows what is going on and has chosen not to side with the 99%. It certainly would affect his campaign contributions from the 1%.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 11:51 PM
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70. hogwash!!
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 12:44 AM
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75. Ah yes, disrespectful. We must be sure to respect the overlords. nm
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 12:46 AM
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76. Obama is an overlord now???
:rofl:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 09:56 AM
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101. I do hope not, but his pal Jeff Immelt is. nm
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 12:13 PM
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112. In your dumb world where he's above all the commoners, maybe. nt
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 12:51 AM
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77. LOL....yes, he s royalty!
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 05:16 AM
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97. You said that, I didn't.
Try using logic next time.

:)
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 01:13 AM
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81. You're so right-- plebes aren't supposed to criticize their betters.
But who expects manners from that great beast, the unwashed masses?

/cake
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 05:15 AM
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96. That makes no sense.
They aren't plebes.

:)
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 07:21 AM
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100. yes - that's what we need to get issues addressed - decorum.....
those "kids" proved to the world that the President IS aware of the abuses occurring physically and financially in the US.


the ball is now firmly in his court and it makes excusing his silence difficult if not impossible.


an uncomfortable position for some..........
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 11:42 AM
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109. Respect is earned, and can be lost.
Respect is not a thing that should ever be given by default, regardless of your social or political prominence.

As to "immature", you're just wrong. Immaturity lies in being unable to handle this sort of thing when it happens.
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 12:12 PM
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111. Lol. He's not a king, oh adoring one.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 03:40 PM
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119. There will be statues made of President Obama after he leaves office.
Edited on Thu Nov-24-11 03:41 PM by Major Hogwash
There will be streets renamed after President Obama when he leaves office.
There will be buildings named after President Obama after he leaves office.
There will be airports named after President Obama when he leaves office.
He will get his own frickin' stamp!
We might even ask for a new denomination for coins to place his likeness on our money!

Hell, I'm even thinking of going down to the dawg shelter and getting another dawg.
And then naming him "President Obama", so I can go to the back door at dusk to call him in for the night just so I can piss off my neighbors!
I'm going to get a BLACK lab!!

It is my density!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 09:08 PM
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59. Did Obama actually receive/see/read the note? Anybody know? Thanks. nt
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 11:02 PM
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65. Yes he did thats his thumb and the kid was ear to ear with a smile...
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 05:03 PM
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121. Thanks - didn't know if that was a real shot or not. nt
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colsohlibgal Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 09:49 PM
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61. He Sold Us Out Right Away
I've yet to hear one apologist rationalize Obama hiring Summers and Geithner as his financial braintrust, his going for the Rubin WS insider club instead of the Reich populist crowd. That put him on double secret probation with me right out of the shute.
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IamK Donating Member (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 11:09 PM
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66. whoever delivered it is anti obama and they don't need a voice... n/t
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 11:32 PM
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67. we wouldn't need OWS if the left had a response to 1% radio
the 99 sells itself out by ignoring the 1% radio, the biggest soapbox in the country, ignored while it has been undermining normal democratic feedback mechanisms.

our elected reps in a democracy shouldn't have to keep a shotgun by the door but by ignoring talk radio , that is what it's come down to.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 12:37 AM
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73. K&R
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 12:43 AM
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74. " I feel your pain"
It's that "compassion thing"
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 01:19 AM
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82. Obama is no FDR is he
he is silent
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 02:14 AM
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86. Of course FDR had a large Democratic majority in Congress
But don't let facts get in the way of your argument.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 02:17 AM
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87. Obama must remain silent about this because he doesn't have a large Dem majority in Congress?
Huh?
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 02:19 AM
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88. He's remained silent?
About what? Be specific.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 02:23 AM
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90. Obama has remained silent about the assault on OWS protester's first amendment rights.
That's what the note is referring to. We see thousands arrested for peacefully protesting. We have also seen police brutality directed at OWS and Obama has remained silent.

What are you talking about?
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 05:17 AM
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98. President Obama has already addressed the OWS protests 4 times in the last month!!
Edited on Thu Nov-24-11 05:18 AM by Major Hogwash
Seriously, count them, 4 times.

:)
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 10:10 AM
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106. Apparently your links failed. nm
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 02:54 PM
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118. naw, naw...fuck facts....better to just lie about Obama at this point, bashers believe anything
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 02:53 PM
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117. FDR had an 83% dem congress too!!!!!!!!!!!!!, bashers usually leave that fact out of the equation...
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 01:25 AM
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83. K and R
:thumbsup:
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roman7 Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 02:51 PM
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116. as a oldish hippie i can remember nixon raising a toast on a washington balcony
while vietnam protesters were getting their heads beat in on the grounds below him & his fellow dirty tricks gang.i posted this this just to remined everyone the difference between dems & repukes
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 10:52 PM
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124. Yea and nothing has changed
I also once was proud but knowing someone has put their heart into it is karma and momentum enough and is a good reason to pitch in. The lessons of the past of what didn't get done in the way it should have actually serves us well. That teach-in thing, the establishment hates that part, thanks for being there

Crashing their party should be our next stop

And a final thought; The only real difference i personally can see between most Dems and repukes is the amount of brainwashing they have succumbed to. Of course much of R's Party has installed sociopaths in leadership positions but mostly i see that lower rank and file as not really understanding or knowing why that understanding would matter.
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billofrightsalive Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 10:27 PM
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123. US Constitution/Bill of Rights & Presidency ...
It was because we held beliefs such as those represented by the OWS protests that we voted for a SEACHANGE, hoping that then senator obama understood what was needed to restore the USA to the JFK/RFK/LBJ version of Us Constitutional democracy, and that he meant his promise to provide a SEACHANGE as president. Unfortunately, we did not ask senator obama to explicate his meaning of SEACHANGE CAMPAIGN PROMISES and clearly, he is yet to fully comprehend what SEACHANGE was/is needed. Does President Obama read/listen to Robert Reich when he takes the time to explain what is needed to help the USA and the american people in commentary on huffington post.com et al. ? Perhaps it is a generational thing, i.e., Mr Obama just did not grow up alongside RFK ... did not understand Patrick Kennedy and Robert Kennedy Jr when they argued vociferously in the US House of Representatives back in the late 1980's/early 1990's ? and what of Joe Biden, he SHOULD know, SHOULD be whispering in president obama's ear to boost comprehension needed to formulate vital solutions now ... Biden stated recently he might run for president in the future ... ? !! he's VP now, why hasn't he educated president obama appropriately to make up for the generational knowledge gap ?! by their actions so shall ye know them...Biden has proven he is not a credible presidential candidate. WHY hasn't president obama taken Robert Reich into the executive branch to orchestrate the recovery needed ... ?! Does any of the press/media understand how the past 35 years of wrong policies have created the current 'second great depression' ? clearly not, since they all went along with politicians postulating the china economic engine would recover the world from the economic pit the republicans, tories, and every other adam-smith-conomics moron have unilaterally created, and except for Tony Benn, John Smith, Donald Dewar, and Gordon Brown of the UK, without any counterbalance/counterpoint from the so-called "liberals" who failed to produce the regulation and controls of business, finance, banking, and economics vital to re-establishing stable and strong individual national economies which would have nurtured a positive global trade beneficial to development and democracy for each and every nation, each and every Indivdual of every nation.

So why haven't the educated Press/Media explained to the american people BEFORE political chicanery dupes them yet again how this mess was created, what needs to be visioned to undo it, and what remedial actions need doing to fix it ... ? !!

p morrison
sunningdale, berks uk/cambridge, ma



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