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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 02:40 PM
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BREAKING: UC Davis Chancellor MIGHT be completely full of SHIT and LYING...
Live on MSNBC just now, so no link...she is claiming that she instructed the police to use peaceful means and that they defied their direct orders.

She just decided to make this statement TODAY???
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 02:41 PM
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1. Ah yes...let's see if this sticks.
Chancellor it's just as smelly
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Juneboarder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 02:42 PM
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2. I heard this on my local MSM this past weekend.
They said she said (lol!!!) she didn't authorize the use of pepper spray, just ordered them to clear the area. Whatever the eff that implies is up to the interpreter.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 02:48 PM
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7. The UC Chancellor is claiming that she only wanted the cops to remove tents...
...and wanted no force & no arrests:

"I explicitly directed the chief of police that violence should be avoided at all costs...I directed police only to take down the tents," she said. "My instructions were for no arrests and no police force."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/uc-davis-chancellor-linda-katehi-defends-i-explicitly-directed-chief-police-violence-avoided-costs-article-1.981554#ixzz1eYl94SdL


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It is strange that she didn't tell the public all that, sooner.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:25 PM
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18. How do you take down tents without violence to personal property?
The only violence apparent in that situation was perpetrated by the officers. The students were totally non-violent.

It is probably very difficult to take down tents without inflicting physical harm on the property of the students if not on their persons.

She is an engineer ( I think she is a mechanical engineer). How in the world did she think the tents could be taken down without violence on the part of the police?

She was asking people to use force to remove the tents and then to simply stop?

That is not how police officers work.

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 07:00 PM
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23. People on camping trips setup and take down tents without damaging them.
Besides, the word "violence" is usually for people, not their property.
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teddy51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 02:43 PM
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3. Wants to save her job any way she can, cause jobs are hard to come by.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 02:47 PM
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5. Yep.
It would be embarassing to have the join the protest after a year of two of looking for another.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 02:49 PM
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9. lol
whatever it is she sure has put her foot in her mouth.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 02:44 PM
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4. Oh nose!
Either that or she's lying in shit.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 02:48 PM
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6. Then where was her outrage when the attacks were occurring? One hour later? I call bull. n/t
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 02:49 PM
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8. might?
:spray:
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Juneboarder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 02:54 PM
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10. Isn't she a Bush appointee? nt
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:31 PM
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21. The UC Regents appoint the various chancellors
also a pretty right-bent bunch, apparently intent on selling off one of the crown jewels of our educational system to the highest bidder. :grr:
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 02:56 PM
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11. Who Knew, Sir,Tommy Flanagan Was Chancellor At U.C. Davis?
The lies this person tells become more outlandish as the days pass....
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 03:05 PM
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12. She also claims she told police chief don't do it at all if there are too many students.
"We told them very specifically to do it peacefully, and if there were too many of them, not to do it, if the students were aggressive, not to do it. And then we told them we also do not want to have another Berkeley."

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/11/23/4074993/katehi-campus-police-were-told.html#ixzz1eYpAPek9
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 03:06 PM
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13. If that is the case, she should have fired the cops involved immediately
Did they directly defy her order or not?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 03:12 PM
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14. The UC Chancellor talked to the police chief.
So there is still the question of what the police chief told the cops before firing people.

I don't believe organizations should quickly firing people after bad video goes up. Lack of due process in firing says that they have a low opinion of their own workers.

ACORN quickly firing its workers led to the end of ACORN. The question would have been will-ACORN-fire-workers-or-not if ACORN spent a month investigating, while with the quick firing, the question became, should Congress end all funding of ACORN?

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:17 PM
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16. She can't up and fire them, there's a process.
But she was slow to suspend those two and then, the chief.

She's a terrible administrator and she should put everyone out of their misery and get lost.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:09 PM
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15. Well, shouldn't she start firing people, then?
After all, the school could held liable in a civil suit!

:eyes:
rocktvity
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:20 PM
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17. Also, people MIGHT be eating turkey tomorrow.
:eyes:
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:27 PM
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19. BREAKING: Water MIGHT still be wet!
:rofl:

:toast:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:28 PM
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20. She is likely to lose the support of those officers
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 04:35 PM
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22. She would deny UC Davis their place in history?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 11:58 PM
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24. LOL. What a liar. If that was true she would have immediately condemed the actions. But NOOO
she gave a lame-assed excuse that was a transparent as Donald Trumps values.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 12:00 AM
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25. GET OUT HEFFALUMP!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 12:06 AM
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26. She's trying to cover her ass.
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