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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:06 PM Original message |
Dad, what is a "Well-Regulated Militia"? |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well, it is different than the people, which is why both are mentioned in the amendment |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. So the second amendment |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Exactly. The other enumerated rights in the Bill don't use prefatory clauses. |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. And you interpret that to mean... |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Just using my reading comprehension skills honestly, unlike Scalia et al. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. So the BOR does not detail individual rights? |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Sure it does. But the 2nd was just appeasement of skeptics of a federal government. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. But it has to be respected until it is amended or removed. |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. It just needs to be properly interpreted and adjudicated in the context of our modern society. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. I think they are doing a fine job of interpreting it. nt |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Presumably because you think access to guns and ammo is somehow GOOD for the country? |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Doesn't seem be hurting it |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Not hurting the country? Your access to guns is Jared Lochner's access to guns. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. So? I haven't killed anyone and don't plan to |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Your internet access is a child molesters internet access. n/t |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Internet access has overwhelming beneficial characterstics. Guns and ammo do not. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Of course they do. Law enforcement uses firearms. |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. They're almost always using firearms in response to firearms drawn on them. |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. Properly interpreted meaning |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
46. Perhaps that's because the Founders thought this particular right was so important |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I agree with you. Unfortunately, the SCOTUS conservative majority doesn't. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Properly equipped Chefs, being necessary for the preparation of good Pizza, |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
4. A totally irrelevant bit of verbiage |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Not at the time it was written |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
40. Nobody said that except you. |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
6. The answer to these questions are in Hamilton's Federalist #29 |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Defend the country from outside, not from within? |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Rachel Maddow talked about that a few days ago. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. The country was founded on the concept of taking up arms to overthrow their own government. |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. How could I forget? We all knew this. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:22 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Well I think part of the problem is our school system "waters down" |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. It's valuable to revisit this part of the founding father's thoughts. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Using muskets. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
9. A bunch of yahoos harassing a sitting President and his supporters? |
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Lint Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
12. The misunderstanding of this phrase is a pet peeve of mine. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Yet we look at state constitutions from the same period |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. "Defend the state" means militia to me. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Did you not see 'themselves and..' in those constitutions?? n/t |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Yeah, but this thread is about militia. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. But it means that there is more than one reason to own gun. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. The cartoon in the OP is an insinuation that the second amendment protects only a militia.. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. What does "in defense of themselves" mean? |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. See #31 above. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. The militia didn't have guns. The PEOPLE had guns. |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
13. Aw, city kids |
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Terry in Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
22. The "Embarrassing Second Amendment" -- ditch it! |
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